Spells /Setup

Spell · Rogue · Subtlety · Physical · Ranks 1-3

Setup

Setup, a Rogue Subtlety ability, was changed in WoW Forever: 3 of 3 ranks differ from Classic Era. Pick any rank to compare its tooltip with Classic Era.

Granted by the Rogue talent Setup. This is the spell it teaches; the talent's own change is on its page.

Spell · Physical · Rank 1 changed

Setup tooltip: Classic Era vs WoW Forever

The same tooltip players see in-game, side by side, with each changed line marked.

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Classic Era Sep 29, 2026

Setup

Rank 1 · Physical school

Gives you a 15% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.

Forever Oct 22, 2026

Setup

Physical school

Gives you a 33% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells.

Shown at rank 1 of 3.

changed value added in Forever removed in Forever

Also changed behind the tooltip: effects (not shown in a tooltip line). See the full field diff below for both values side by side.

Raw field diff every changed column

Field	Classic Era	Forever
description	Gives you a $h% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.	Gives you a $m1% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells.
durationIndex	21	0
effects	[ { "amplitude": 0, "aura": 42, "auraPeriod": 0, "basePoints": -1, "chainAmplitude": 1, "chainTargets": 0, "dieSides": 1, "effect": 6, "index": 0, "miscValue": [ 0, 0 ], "pointsPerResource": 0, "realPointsPerLevel": 0, "triggerSpell": 15250, "variance": 0 } ]	[ { "amplitude": 0, "aura": 4, "auraPeriod": 0, "basePoints": 33, "chainAmplitude": 1, "chainTargets": 0, "effect": 6, "index": 0, "miscValue": [ 0, 0 ], "pointsPerResource": 0, "realPointsPerLevel": 0, "triggerSpell": 15250, "variance": 0 } ]
procChance	15	100
subtext	Rank 1	none

See every changed record in the Oct 22, 2026 build →

Spell · Physical · Rank 2 changed

Setup (Rank 2) tooltip: Classic Era vs WoW Forever

Classic Era rank 2 beside the talent's Forever spell at rank 2, changes marked.

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Classic Era Sep 29, 2026

Setup

Rank 2 · Physical school

Gives you a 30% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.

Forever Oct 22, 2026

Setup

Physical school

Gives you a 67% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells.

Shown at rank 2 of 3.

changed value added in Forever removed in Forever

See every changed record in the Oct 22, 2026 build →

Spell · Physical · Rank 3 changed

Setup (Rank 3) tooltip: Classic Era vs WoW Forever

Classic Era rank 3 beside the talent's Forever spell at rank 3, changes marked.

Change rank

of 3

Classic Era Sep 29, 2026

Setup

Rank 3 · Physical school

Gives you a 45% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.

Forever Oct 22, 2026

Setup

Physical school

Gives you a 100% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells.

Shown at rank 3 of 3.

changed value added in Forever removed in Forever

See every changed record in the Oct 22, 2026 build →

What changed for Setup in WoW Forever

Rank 1 changed effect values changed, tooltip now says "Gives you a 33% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells.", rank text Rank 1 to none
Rank 2 changed rank 2 of the talent's one WoW Forever spell; it now reads "Gives you a 67% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells."
Rank 3 changed rank 3 of the talent's one WoW Forever spell; it now reads "Gives you a 100% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells."

Setup changes between Forever builds

In the Oct 2, 2026 build (vs Sep 30, 2026)
- Rank 1 changed effect type changed behind the tooltip, tooltip now says "Gives you a 33% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells."

Differs from Classic Era in every Forever build since Sep 16, 2026

Related to Setup

Questions about Setup

Was Setup nerfed in WoW Forever?

Setup is listed as changed, not nerfed or buffed: no cast time, cost, cooldown or range moved in WoW Forever compared with Classic Era.

What changed for Setup in WoW Forever?

Rank 1: effect values changed, tooltip now says "Gives you a 33% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells.", rank text Rank 1 to none. Rank 2: rank 2 of the talent's one WoW Forever spell; it now reads "Gives you a 67% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells." Rank 3: rank 3 of the talent's one WoW Forever spell; it now reads "Gives you a 100% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells." Each rank's Classic Era and WoW Forever tooltips are shown side by side on this page.

Which class gets Setup in WoW Forever?

Setup is a Rogue ability in WoW Forever, in the Subtlety spellbook tab.

Read from the Oct 22, 2026 build (1.60.1.70532), compared against Classic Era Sep 29, 2026 (1.15.9.70003) ·synced Oct 22, 2026 · how we read this → · report a wrong value