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Talent · Rogue · Subtlety changed

Setup

Setup was changed in WoW Forever: moved from row 4 to row 2, rank 1 reworked: "Gives you a 33% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells." Rogue Subtlety talent, 3 ranks. Full tooltip comparison with Classic Era below.

This talent has 3 ranks, one per point you can spend. Pick a rank to see the ability it grants at that many points, Classic Era vs WoW Forever.

1 point spent changed

Setup rank 1: Classic Era vs WoW Forever

Classic Era
Setup
Rank 1 of 3 · Passive

Gives you a 15% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.

WoW Forever
Setup
Rank 1 of 3 · Passive

Gives you a 33% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells.

of 3
2 points spent changed

Setup rank 2: Classic Era vs WoW Forever

Classic Era
Setup
Rank 2 of 3 · Passive

Gives you a 30% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.

WoW Forever
Setup
Rank 2 of 3 · Passive

Gives you a 67% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells.

of 3
3 points spent changed

Setup rank 3: Classic Era vs WoW Forever

Classic Era
Setup
Rank 3 of 3 · Passive

Gives you a 45% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.

WoW Forever
Setup
Rank 3 of 3 · Passive

Gives you a 100% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells.

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Setup changes between Forever builds

  • In the Oct 2, 2026 build (vs Sep 30, 2026): changed rank 1 reworked: "Gives you a 33% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells."

Talent field diff the talent row itself (name, class slot, ranks)
Field Classic Era Forever
rankTexts [ "Gives you a 15% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.", "Gives you a 30% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.", "Gives you a 45% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells." ] [ "Gives you a 33% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells.", "Gives you a 67% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells.", "Gives you a 100% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells." ]
rankValues [ [ 15 ], [ 30 ], [ 45 ] ] [ [ 33 ], [ 67 ], [ 100 ] ]
tier 3 1

Questions about Setup

Was Setup nerfed in WoW Forever?

Setup is listed as changed, not nerfed or buffed: no rank value moved one way in WoW Forever compared with Classic Era. What changed: moved from row 4 to row 2, rank 1 reworked: "Gives you a 33% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells."

What changed for Setup in WoW Forever?

Moved from row 4 to row 2, rank 1 reworked: "Gives you a 33% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells." The Classic Era and WoW Forever tooltips are shown side by side on this page.

Read from the Oct 22, 2026 build (1.60.1.70532), compared against Classic Era Oct 27, 2026 (1.15.9.70576) ·synced Oct 27, 2026 · how we read this → · report a wrong value