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Echoes of Dread

Other versions of Echoes of Dread: all 2 versions · #446579

Echoes of Dread shows the same tooltip in WoW Forever as in Classic Era, but behind it the client changed the effect type on 1 of its 2 effects. The client does not say what that changes in play. Instant cast.

Echoes of Dread tooltip: Classic Era vs WoW Forever

The same tooltip players see in-game, side by side, with each changed line marked.

Classic Era Oct 27, 2026
Echoes of Dread
Shadow school
Instant
Your melee attacks have a chance to unleash echoes from the void, instilling you with a deep sense of dread. Increasing your attack speed by 5% and attack power by 50. This has no effect outside of areas under the influence of the Nightmare.
Attack speed and attack power increased.
Forever Oct 22, 2026
Echoes of Dread
Shadow school
Instant
Your melee attacks have a chance to unleash echoes from the void, instilling you with a deep sense of dread. Increasing your attack speed by 5% and attack power by 50. This has no effect outside of areas under the influence of the Nightmare.
Attack speed and attack power increased.
changed value added in Forever removed in Forever

Both tooltips read the same. The client changed only data behind them: effects (not shown in a tooltip line). See the full field diff below for both values side by side.

Raw field diff every changed column
Field Classic Era Forever
effects [ { "amplitude": 0, "aura": 138, "auraPeriod": 0, "basePoints": 5, "chainAmplitude": 1, "chainTargets": 0, "dieSides": 0, "effect": 6, "index": 0, "miscValue": [ 0, 0 ], "pointsPerResource": 0, "realPointsPerLevel": 0, "triggerSpell": 0, "variance": 0 }, { "amplitude": 0, "aura": 99, "auraPeriod": 0, "basePoints": 50, "chainAmplitude": 1, "chainTargets": 0, "dieSides": 0, "effect": 6, "index": 1, "miscValue": [ 0, 0 ], "pointsPerResource": 0, "realPointsPerLevel": 0, "triggerSpell": 0, "variance": 0 } ] [ { "amplitude": 0, "aura": 319, "auraPeriod": 0, "basePoints": 5, "chainAmplitude": 1, "chainTargets": 0, "effect": 6, "index": 0, "miscValue": [ 0, 0 ], "pointsPerResource": 0, "realPointsPerLevel": 0, "triggerSpell": 0, "variance": 0 }, { "amplitude": 0, "aura": 99, "auraPeriod": 0, "basePoints": 50, "chainAmplitude": 1, "chainTargets": 0, "effect": 6, "index": 1, "miscValue": [ 0, 0 ], "pointsPerResource": 0, "realPointsPerLevel": 0, "triggerSpell": 0, "variance": 0 } ]

Echoes of Dread changes between Forever builds

What triggers Echoes of Dread

Echoes of Dread

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Questions about Echoes of Dread

Did Echoes of Dread change in WoW Forever?

Not on the tooltip. Echoes of Dread shows the same tooltip in WoW Forever as in Classic Era; behind it the client changed the effect type on 1 of its 2 effects.

Read from the Oct 22, 2026 build (1.60.1.70532), compared against Classic Era Oct 27, 2026 (1.15.9.70576) ·synced Oct 27, 2026 · how we read this → · report a wrong value