Echo of Archimonde

Echo of Archimonde shows the same tooltip in WoW Forever as in Classic Era, but behind it the client changed effect parameters the tooltip never prints on 1 of its 3 effects, removed 2 effects. The client does not say what that changes in play. Instant cast.

Echo of Archimonde tooltip: Classic Era vs WoW Forever

The same tooltip players see in-game, side by side, with each changed line marked.

Classic Era Oct 27, 2026

Echo of Archimonde

Shadow school

Instant

Forever Oct 22, 2026

Echo of Archimonde

Shadow school

Instant

changed value added in Forever removed in Forever

Both tooltips read the same. The client changed only data behind them: effects (not shown in a tooltip line). See the full field diff below for both values side by side.

Raw field diff every changed column

Field	Classic Era	Forever
effects	[ { "amplitude": 0, "aura": 56, "auraPeriod": 0, "basePoints": 0, "chainAmplitude": 1, "chainTargets": 0, "dieSides": 0, "effect": 6, "index": 0, "miscValue": [ 13083, 0 ], "pointsPerResource": 0, "realPointsPerLevel": 0, "triggerSpell": 0, "variance": 0 }, { "amplitude": 0, "aura": 138, "auraPeriod": 0, "basePoints": 14, "chainAmplitude": 1, "chainTargets": 0, "dieSides": 1, "effect": 6, "index": 1, "miscValue": [ 0, 0 ], "pointsPerResource": 0, "realPointsPerLevel": 0, "triggerSpell": 0, "variance": 0 }, { "amplitude": 0, "aura": 52, "auraPeriod": 0, "basePoints": 14, "chainAmplitude": 1, "chainTargets": 0, "dieSides": 1, "effect": 6, "index": 2, "miscValue": [ 0, 0 ], "pointsPerResource": 0, "realPointsPerLevel": 0, "triggerSpell": 0, "variance": 0 } ]	[ { "amplitude": 0, "aura": 56, "auraPeriod": 0, "basePoints": 0, "chainAmplitude": 1, "chainTargets": 0, "effect": 6, "index": 0, "miscValue": [ 13083, 1 ], "pointsPerResource": 0, "realPointsPerLevel": 0, "triggerSpell": 0, "variance": 0 } ]

Echo of Archimonde changes between Forever builds

In the Oct 8, 2026 build (vs Oct 7, 2026): changed changed effect parameters the tooltip never prints on 1 of its 1 effect

Same tooltip as Classic Era in every Forever build since Sep 16, 2026

Items with Echo of Archimonde

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Questions about Echo of Archimonde

Did Echo of Archimonde change in WoW Forever?

Not on the tooltip. Echo of Archimonde shows the same tooltip in WoW Forever as in Classic Era; behind it the client changed effect parameters the tooltip never prints on 1 of its 3 effects, removed 2 effects.

Read from the Oct 22, 2026 build (1.60.1.70532), compared against Classic Era Oct 27, 2026 (1.15.9.70576) ·synced Oct 27, 2026 · how we read this → · report a wrong value